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i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt workers leading to fewer jobs, lower wages, and that sort of consequences. >> greta: would it be fair to say that the popularity of unions in michigans is split? >> i don't know if you could say it's split. i mean, obviously one side is louder than the other at this point. it's hard to tell. >> greta: indeed, we've seen the storming of your state capitol. that's been quite a sight which has certainly put a national spotlight on this. i don't know if it's something the unions and the governor want, but you sure got it. >> definitely. it looks like come tuesday that could be the same as well and if not possibl
i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt...
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>>> thousands of protesters very angry in michigan. this was the scene yesterday at the state capitol. a union activists were surrounding the building with the lawmakers inside, and they were demanding an end to a bill there that would weaken the unions and limit the workers' rights, but the right to work measure that they were so nc
>>> thousands of protesters very angry in michigan. this was the scene yesterday at the state capitol. a union activists were surrounding the building with the lawmakers inside, and they were demanding an end to a bill there that would weaken the unions and limit the workers' rights, but the right to work measure that they were so nc
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michigan state and made a game of it. a 28-25 lead, and they led by 2.5 it when they came back at until the second half. he will take it the coast-coast. going for the colorado state her -- a 5-point lead it. they were at 8-1. westing no time in this one.
michigan state and made a game of it. a 28-25 lead, and they led by 2.5 it when they came back at until the second half. he will take it the coast-coast. going for the colorado state her -- a 5-point lead it. they were at 8-1. westing no time in this one.
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but this is a battle that iff they win, they lose for the ate of michigan. >> brenda: okay. that's the last word. thank you all and thanks for joining us. so, you think coal is the worst christmas present ever? not here on bulls and bears, why that's all you should want from santa this clear. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including advair could help improve your lung function.
but this is a battle that iff they win, they lose for the ate of michigan. >> brenda: okay. that's the last word. thank you all and thanks for joining us. so, you think coal is the worst christmas present ever? not here on bulls and bears, why that's all you should want from santa this clear. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd...
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. >>> experts say what happens over the next 48 hours in michigan could change the course of the nation's labor movement. that's because the state's house and senate are trying to hammer out some legislation there that's going to make michigan the 24th right to work state. opponents say that will lower wages and benefits and hurt the middle class and that strong unions built michigan's middle class. but supporters say the legislation will spark economic growth and encourage fairness. our alison kosik is live in lansing with the latest. i know they're really bracing for an onslaught of people. specifically by tomorrow. lay out the essentials of the story for me if you would. >> exactly. they are police are bracing for what's to come tomorrow. right now is sort of the quiet before the storm. you know, you see the barricades going up here and there is a pretty good police presence here today in and around the state capital building here in michigan in preparation for who's to come because last week, we got a taste of it. thousands of demonstrators descends upon this building as these votes w
. >>> experts say what happens over the next 48 hours in michigan could change the course of the nation's labor movement. that's because the state's house and senate are trying to hammer out some legislation there that's going to make michigan the 24th right to work state. opponents say that will lower wages and benefits and hurt the middle class and that strong unions built michigan's middle class. but supporters say the legislation will spark economic growth and encourage fairness....
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. >>> in our second story, michigan governor's could sign a controversial right to work bill by tuesday that allow workers to unionize companies to avoid paying dues. the critics would hurt union strength, but supporters say it will bring jobs to the state. democrats and union supporters are planning a massive rally at the state capital the same day. >>> in money news, holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the job report retailers hired more people in november than any other month. on record since 1939, according to the labor department. 146,000 jobs added to the economy last month and the unemployment rate fell to a four-year low of 7.7%, partly because thousands of people have just stopped looking for work. >>> at number four, president obama asking congress for $60.4 billion in emergency aid for superstorm sandy recovery efforts. thatie request falls short of total damage estimates. they say they'll need closer to $82 billion to repair their states. >>> it's been more than 15 years since he was mysteriously gunned down, but the los angeles coroner's office has finally released
. >>> in our second story, michigan governor's could sign a controversial right to work bill by tuesday that allow workers to unionize companies to avoid paying dues. the critics would hurt union strength, but supporters say it will bring jobs to the state. democrats and union supporters are planning a massive rally at the state capital the same day. >>> in money news, holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the job report retailers hired more people in november than any...
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. >> silence of destruction of private property after the vote to in michigan. what is the media silent? the federal government does not think we have a spending problem because millions more will be spent on a new wind project. what is a difference between a $10 a bottle of wine and 10,000? we found a surprising answer. next. tracy: spending taxpayers money is only a federal problem. check this out. this atlanta mayor, approving the city council to receive -- wait for it -- 50% pay increase starting in 2014. do they not have tv in atlanta? you heard it right. 50%. the council council members voted to raise their own pay earlier this month. these employers employees are also demanding that pays well. they are wanting to raise the income for these city employees. really? fiscal cliff? deficit? that? anyone? what steps can you take to lower your tax burden mr.? we have dominant from diversified financiaa consultants. you talk with them leaders. what do they say? >> they are working diligently to get this compromise. if you look at the economic and tax issues facin
. >> silence of destruction of private property after the vote to in michigan. what is the media silent? the federal government does not think we have a spending problem because millions more will be spent on a new wind project. what is a difference between a $10 a bottle of wine and 10,000? we found a surprising answer. next. tracy: spending taxpayers money is only a federal problem. check this out. this atlanta mayor, approving the city council to receive -- wait for it -- 50% pay...
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michigan is primarily a rural state. this will be extremely difficult for people outside of southeastern michigan to get reproductive healthcare. so for us as nurses i think we'll have to do more education and outreach in the community. it's going to take a little time to figure out what strategies we're going to use. >> eliot: when we think of michigan, as with every state that there is diversity politically. in the right to work laws. >> right to work for less. >> eliot: exactly. do you think they provided cover for these heinous bills in the sense that so much attention was focused on them that these awful anti-choice bills were snuck in the dark of night. >> i don't think so because there is even more on the agenda. there is another emergency financial manager legislation which with legislation that governor snyder signed, it was the fourth bill that became law in his term. so less than two years ago. and our voters said, we don't want that. we just voted in november. yet on the floor we're taking up another bill on
michigan is primarily a rural state. this will be extremely difficult for people outside of southeastern michigan to get reproductive healthcare. so for us as nurses i think we'll have to do more education and outreach in the community. it's going to take a little time to figure out what strategies we're going to use. >> eliot: when we think of michigan, as with every state that there is diversity politically. in the right to work laws. >> right to work for less. >> eliot:...
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congress from michigan. more voters in michigan cast a ballot for a democratic member of congress than cast a ballot for a republican member of congress. and it was by quite a lot, by a couple 100,000 votes. overall, more michigan voters wanted to send a democrat to congress to represent them than wanted to send a republican to represent them. guess who is actually going to congress to represent them? ah, yes, republicans. michigan's congressional delegation will include almost twice as many republicans as democrats, even though more people in michigan picked a democrat when they voted for congress. republicans got nine seat and the democrats got five. what has happened in michigan is not some sort of miscounting of the votes. it is not a mistake. it is weird quite deliberately, and weird by design. elected officials draw up new districts for electing members of congress in state legislatures every ten years after the new census. well, republicans were in charge this time around in michigan, so it was the re
congress from michigan. more voters in michigan cast a ballot for a democratic member of congress than cast a ballot for a republican member of congress. and it was by quite a lot, by a couple 100,000 votes. overall, more michigan voters wanted to send a democrat to congress to represent them than wanted to send a republican to represent them. guess who is actually going to congress to represent them? ah, yes, republicans. michigan's congressional delegation will include almost twice as many...
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good times on a friday night. - big week for organized labor a stunning defeat in michigan and the right to work a lot that part was look covered but was largely ignored was this. union members desperately a clinging to power violence violence, assault and destruction of private property. will anybody be charged? why are some looking the other way? lou dobbs joins us tonight. this infuriates you? >> at the same time we should get used to the fact that daschle liberal media will make choices that are inexplicable other than their own by as. what we watched it was conservative comedian being punched and he shows that he could take a pretty good punch but cbs, nbc left this part of the story out and so it did abc referred to the violence without specificity. they also left out democratic state representative got a little carried away and started to talk about the undue 100 years of labor progress quote-unquote there will be blood record jimmy hoffa said there will be a civil war. this is the language that would is used time and time again but completely ignored by cbs, abc, and nbc it is tr
good times on a friday night. - big week for organized labor a stunning defeat in michigan and the right to work a lot that part was look covered but was largely ignored was this. union members desperately a clinging to power violence violence, assault and destruction of private property. will anybody be charged? why are some looking the other way? lou dobbs joins us tonight. this infuriates you? >> at the same time we should get used to the fact that daschle liberal media will make...
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i'm fascinated, also, by the politics of this within michigan and when's happening in michigan because this law which, you know, the final vote in the legislature will be tomorrow and the expectation is the republican governor will sign it and changes the political culture and just the working culture of michigan. talk about the right to work laws used to be just south carolina, used to be the old confederacy. to have it spread to the rust belt is dramatic. the story is governor rick snyder, republican governor, hard to believe now but when he was elected he was celebrated by the national media as the anti-tea party republican. campaign as a nerd, not so much ideological. he wasn't going to do the kinds of things in michigan that john kay sich was doing in ohio and the turning point when labor in michigan tried to put a constitutional amendment -- put a constitutional amendment on the ballot out there he took as an affront and he snider in response is receptive to this legislation but i think what's interesting to watch here just quickly in the next day is this. a group of democratic c
i'm fascinated, also, by the politics of this within michigan and when's happening in michigan because this law which, you know, the final vote in the legislature will be tomorrow and the expectation is the republican governor will sign it and changes the political culture and just the working culture of michigan. talk about the right to work laws used to be just south carolina, used to be the old confederacy. to have it spread to the rust belt is dramatic. the story is governor rick snyder,...
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he want what is is best for michigan. >> eric: we have to go. >> dana: 57% of michigan agree. >> bob: why did they attack the innocent what did they have against camping? >> eric: they attacked a tent. crowder was trying to make sure no one got hurt inside the tent. coming up, truth about the most controversial scenes in a controversial movie "zero dark thirty." a lot of backlash over the waterboarding staged in the bin laden raid film. keep it right here. on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. the red cross was down here all the time. [ man ] they've given us a lot of heart. in times of need, they're there. ♪ [ kerry ] my dad was watching his house burn. he turned around, and all of a sudden, therwas this guy standing there from the red cross. at a point where i had just lost everything, the idea that there was someone there... that
he want what is is best for michigan. >> eric: we have to go. >> dana: 57% of michigan agree. >> bob: why did they attack the innocent what did they have against camping? >> eric: they attacked a tent. crowder was trying to make sure no one got hurt inside the tent. coming up, truth about the most controversial scenes in a controversial movie "zero dark thirty." a lot of backlash over the waterboarding staged in the bin laden raid film. keep it right here. on...
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in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken unions. police stand shoulder to shoulder preparing for as many as 10,000 protesters at the michigan state capitol today. >> people have a constitutional right to demonstrate. however, all we ask is that they do it in an orderly, lawful, and civil manner. >> reporter: state legislators vote this morning on a right-to-work bill that would weaken unions. opponents acknowledge they're powerless to stop it. >> at the end of the day they'll be passed and signed by the governor. that doesn't make it right. >> reporter: the bill means michigan workers would no longer have to pay the union fees for negotiating contracts and other services. >> if i'm being provided a service by a pa
in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken unions. police stand shoulder to shoulder preparing for as many as 10,000 protesters at the michigan...
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>>guest: why would the president spent yesterday in michigan railing against something that the michigan legislature is going to do when we are facing a few days before going over the cliff? i don't get it. unless the president things he will gain in the short temperature -- term politically by going over the cliff but long term historians put the blame on the president of the up. it may look like a gain short term, but in the long run, is that really helpful to the president's reputation in 20 or 30 years they could not get a deal and push the country into another recession or a short-term recession? >> harry reid, the majority leader, would say very unlikely we would have a deal by christmas, ostensibly we are running out of days on the calendar. if that is the case and he quibbles that the republicans have not come up with specifics, are you against running to the clinton rates or are you okay where that if it avoids the hoops of looking for like revenue? >>guest: i am in favor of anything that gets an agreement. it seems to me, why are we focusing on that narrow part of this entire s
>>guest: why would the president spent yesterday in michigan railing against something that the michigan legislature is going to do when we are facing a few days before going over the cliff? i don't get it. unless the president things he will gain in the short temperature -- term politically by going over the cliff but long term historians put the blame on the president of the up. it may look like a gain short term, but in the long run, is that really helpful to the president's reputation...
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it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us behind the curtain and explain the relationship of the koch brothers and all of these right-to-work organizations that have been pushing this behind the scenes. >> what you see in michigan, behind the scenes as you say, are a number of grassroots groups that have names like americans for prosperity, michigan freedom fund and so forth. they are there to push lawmakers to pass right-to-work legislation, funded by some of the biggest interests on the conservative side. the koch brothers, we're talking about the prince family, eric prince used to run black w
it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us...
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want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you are about to say. it's obvious, the tactic from the left are driving me crazy. they are not going to win friends or influence people by that type of behavior or attacking me because i say that the governor is a mild mannered guy. >> bob: you say he is mild mannered. i don't know him. but maybe he is. he signed the bill, refused a signing ceremony. done behind closed doors. >> greg: unlike the healthcare bill. >> eric: it was done absolutely legally. the people of michigan -- >> bob: voters -- no, they did not. >> eric: theyer with lechted. every one o
want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you...
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hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue michigan was built on unions. they claim the gop majority state legislature is making an attack on the middle class. >> on tuesday it's important because they are going to try to reconcile the bills. the governor who said he didn't want the legislation now says he is going to sign it. so it's an attack on working families and we are going to be there and not stand for it. >> they are still standing for it because over the weekend union organizers continue to prepare their numbers for take to go the streets this week staging demonstrations against the measure. if the vote goes through they say it will hurt organize
hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue...
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one moo said to me in michigan, hat's four monthh groceries. i mean that's work in gas for up to three years, i mean that's a loo of money."democrats want higher taxes on families earning 250-thousand-dollars a year and over. epublicans want tax rates to stay where they are. taxes seem to be he biggest obstacle to a coopromise. but others want to see government spending ppt in cceck."the about the addiction thht his administrrtion has to spending. he's the spender in he's wiiling to do that."i s offered over a trillion dollars in additional spending dollars of spending cuts ffr o revenue.""the senate stands in - recess"the senate reconvenes at 11-a-m. so as americans 20013, they may waae up of wishing it were 20-12, when they had more money in their pockets. i'' andrew spencer reporting. even if lawmakers don't come to ngreement tonight... you probably on't see a drastic change in yourrnext paycheck. that's ecause bussnesses likely used 20-12 withholding rates... uncertain abouttwhat would happen. happee.iffyouuwant to ee how much your taxes wo
one moo said to me in michigan, hat's four monthh groceries. i mean that's work in gas for up to three years, i mean that's a loo of money."democrats want higher taxes on families earning 250-thousand-dollars a year and over. epublicans want tax rates to stay where they are. taxes seem to be he biggest obstacle to a coopromise. but others want to see government spending ppt in cceck."the about the addiction thht his administrrtion has to spending. he's the spender in he's wiiling to...
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michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because th
michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of...
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they don't have jobs in michigan. do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car that is paying for pensions of people who retired five years ago that's correct is a do youing state. one of the most beautiful states in the union and that's what happens. >> let me answer your great point. this is true. right now detroit is on the verge of bankruptcy. one of america's great cities. they have lost half their population. can go on the internet. i urge our viewers to go out there. you can buy homes in detroit for a thousand dollars. last time i was there, it was shocking how one boa
they don't have jobs in michigan. do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the...
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there's eastern michigan and there's western michigan. eastern michigan is much more urban and the attitudes are more along the lines of ban everything. and i grew up in a town in detroit in which a lot of teens were being killed before they reached their 16th birthday. that's the impetus behind banning everything. the rest of the state is more rural. there's a lot of hunters and people who are pro-gun and it's very conservative. but i will tell you this. all 21 superintendents in my county since signed a letter asking the governor not to approve a law that would have allowed guns in schools amongst other places. it's not as extreme as you would think. so all that to say, i think people in michigan on both sides of the state are open and willing and wanting some sort of restrictions so we don't see what happened in newtown, aurora, arizona, some of the other mass shootings that we have seen this year happen in 2013. >> okay, so will, you're from texas. you know what everybody thinks about texas. ain't going to be argument there is because
there's eastern michigan and there's western michigan. eastern michigan is much more urban and the attitudes are more along the lines of ban everything. and i grew up in a town in detroit in which a lot of teens were being killed before they reached their 16th birthday. that's the impetus behind banning everything. the rest of the state is more rural. there's a lot of hunters and people who are pro-gun and it's very conservative. but i will tell you this. all 21 superintendents in my county...
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and in michigan. is there in your meetings, is there a strategy for coming back? are these setbacks seen as reverbalable? >> well, ezra, i see it as a reawake inning of people. dispiriting because the attacks have been so relentless. it's a attacks on workers, on planned parenthood, on immigrants. it's all connected in our minds. so we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement that we're going to build power in the workplace, build power at the ballot box, build power in the communities. and make it crystal clear that snyder can't get away with this by building a more powerful worker community movement in the state of michigan and rebuilding a middle class, not just in michigan, but all across this country. >> supporters of these laws, i don't really like to call them right-to-work laws, i think it's just framing. but support sayers why should you, if you have been hired by an employer, gm maybe, why should you have to pay to be represented by a union that you didn't vote for and maybe th
and in michigan. is there in your meetings, is there a strategy for coming back? are these setbacks seen as reverbalable? >> well, ezra, i see it as a reawake inning of people. dispiriting because the attacks have been so relentless. it's a attacks on workers, on planned parenthood, on immigrants. it's all connected in our minds. so we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement that we're going to build power in the workplace, build power at the ballot box, build power in the...
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topping the agenda this hour, breaking news out of michigan. the fight coming to a head over that state's right to work law as thousands of protesters swarched the state capital. union supporters are rallying around the capital building itself in lansing as gop lawmakers from both state houses vote on a bill that would significantly weaken union rights in a state considered one of the cradles of the labor movement. the law prohibits workers from being required to pay union dues as a condition of employment. republican governor schneider saying that he'll sign that bill right away making michigan the 24th state with the right to work. >>> yesterday president obama joined the chorus of voices condemning this move. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your right to bargain for better wages. giving you the right to work for less money. >> nbc is live from lansing, michigan, and from detroit i'm joined by michigan democratic congressman gary peters. ron, i'm going to start with you. d
topping the agenda this hour, breaking news out of michigan. the fight coming to a head over that state's right to work law as thousands of protesters swarched the state capital. union supporters are rallying around the capital building itself in lansing as gop lawmakers from both state houses vote on a bill that would significantly weaken union rights in a state considered one of the cradles of the labor movement. the law prohibits workers from being required to pay union dues as a condition...
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thousands battling over michigan's right to work. will the governor reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two d
thousands battling over michigan's right to work. will the governor reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp...
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. >> brendawell, jonas, dn't michigan, didn't detroit already get a bailout. >> yes, it was called t auto bailo. and before the election, unformer. two admistrations that did that. everyone wts a bailout and the president's going to get your votes one way or the other. question is coming up more broadly, right now new jersey and an other of states getting a huge one because it s a cast catastrophe. >> and if it's beyond your control and-- >> the case is we voted for you, we get a bailout. >> and on the other side, detroit is in a multi-decade collapse that is beyond the scope, it's almost lik a hurricane. and i'm not saying it's totally insane for nem to get a disproportionate amount-- >> gary b, you le in maryland, should you and maryland be paying for what detroit or michigan is deciding to do with unions and pensns and how they got themselves in this mess in the first place? >> exactly, brenda. i kind of agree with jonas. i'm not sure i'd be so quick bail out cities with national catastrophes. they decided to live there and build there. but jonas it right, a lot of cities like det
. >> brendawell, jonas, dn't michigan, didn't detroit already get a bailout. >> yes, it was called t auto bailo. and before the election, unformer. two admistrations that did that. everyone wts a bailout and the president's going to get your votes one way or the other. question is coming up more broadly, right now new jersey and an other of states getting a huge one because it s a cast catastrophe. >> and if it's beyond your control and-- >> the case is we voted for you,...
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. >> plus, fighting the poll gram in michigan. the plan to fight for democracy, the right wing media distracts with this. [bleep]. >> we'll tell you what's really happening and why they have it all wrong. you're watchi ining "politics nation" on msnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way
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a big union fight in michigan. michigan the home of the powerful auto unions could become a right to work state. the governor is expected to sign a new law tomorrow, right to work, michigan, 24th state. unions have been protesting and bigger demonstrations are planned. listen to this: stuart: got pretty noisy. all right, all rise, judge andrew napolitano is here. judge, welcome back. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: now i think -- if a state becomes right to work, essentially that means that a union may not force its members to contribute dues. union membership becomes voluntary. am i right? >> well i would state it slightly differently, but we end up at the same point. in a right to work state, the state does not force people to join unions. stuart: okay. >> in a nonright to work state, it is a law that you join or contribute to the unions. so if you choose not to join, your employer is required to deduct from your salary the dues for the union and remit it to the union, whether you physically join, sign up the paper
a big union fight in michigan. michigan the home of the powerful auto unions could become a right to work state. the governor is expected to sign a new law tomorrow, right to work, michigan, 24th state. unions have been protesting and bigger demonstrations are planned. listen to this: stuart: got pretty noisy. all right, all rise, judge andrew napolitano is here. judge, welcome back. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: now i think -- if a state becomes right to work, essentially that means that...
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take you there live to michigan for the latest. >>> signs of hope. are president obama and speaker boehner about to give birth to a two-party fiscal cliff deal? how both sides are trying to meet in the sensible center. >>> and history making newlyweds. robbie perry and paris prince are the first male couple to be celebrated four their wedding in "jet" magazine's famous love section. the men join me on their history making moment and breaking stereotypes. can your moisturizer do that? [ female announcer ] dermatologist recommended aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. it doesn't matter which
take you there live to michigan for the latest. >>> signs of hope. are president obama and speaker boehner about to give birth to a two-party fiscal cliff deal? how both sides are trying to meet in the sensible center. >>> and history making newlyweds. robbie perry and paris prince are the first male couple to be celebrated four their wedding in "jet" magazine's famous love section. the men join me on their history making moment and breaking stereotypes. can your...
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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the michigan republican congressman who is here to say what his party shouldn't do. congressman, your fear came on taxes. don't do it. >>guest: given the deals we are talking abouts we should not cave on taxes when the amount of spending cuts over 10 years are a drop in the bucket. >>neil: so, when you lost the committee leadership assignment, did that opposition play into that? did speaker boehner say if you were quieter you would still be if a key role? >>guest: well, speaker boehner's staff have not talked to me. the only talking they have done is to the press off the record and anonymously so i have not heard anything directly from the speaker and, look be it is not about who will compromise or who will work with democrats or who will do what is right for our country is what matters. right now, the kind of things we hear from both the speaker and the president are not what is great for our country. we need were bigger spending cuts, we can talk about taxes but it needs to be part of a larger deal that balances our budget. >>neil: so, congressman, you are not aver
the michigan republican congressman who is here to say what his party shouldn't do. congressman, your fear came on taxes. don't do it. >>guest: given the deals we are talking abouts we should not cave on taxes when the amount of spending cuts over 10 years are a drop in the bucket. >>neil: so, when you lost the committee leadership assignment, did that opposition play into that? did speaker boehner say if you were quieter you would still be if a key role? >>guest: well,...
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michigan, parts of indiana, blowing, drifting snow, wind gusts on the shores much lake michigan over 0 mil50 miles an . imagine the waves. all rain from trendon up through bridgeport. some heavy at times. sleet mixing in and snow across parts of the canadian border, winds across a large swath. wind gusting to 50 miles per hour, enough to do some damage. snow totals expected in the next 48 hours or so. along the mountains and across the east side of the great lakes, mostly rain today. looking ahead toward next week. a chance of snow after christmas. let's get through today. >> exactly. my strategy. let's get through today, worry about it when we're there. >>> the wind and rain so powerful in alabama, they uprooted a mercedes dealership's massive billboard. that's the billboard right there. send it crashing into an suv. 50 cars damaged. strong winds flipped some of the cars and downed power lines and debris damaged other cars as well. >>> other stories to talk about this morning. good morning to up. >> thank you, soledad. 2 1/2 hours from now, everything will stop in connecticut and in
michigan, parts of indiana, blowing, drifting snow, wind gusts on the shores much lake michigan over 0 mil50 miles an . imagine the waves. all rain from trendon up through bridgeport. some heavy at times. sleet mixing in and snow across parts of the canadian border, winds across a large swath. wind gusting to 50 miles per hour, enough to do some damage. snow totals expected in the next 48 hours or so. along the mountains and across the east side of the great lakes, mostly rain today. looking...
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the scene in michigan today looked familiar. it looked like the scenes in indiana and in ohio and in wisconsin where those states voted to take away the rights of unions. in fact, it was exactly that kind of scene michigan governor rick snyder, a republican, had said he wanted to avoid. in february, governor snyder looked at those other midwestern states with republican governors and workers protesting in the state capital and decided he did not want that thing in michigan, not in his historically very strong union state. governor snyder said, "you look at now that they've had those things happen, do they have a productive environment to solve problems? not necessarily. they're still overcoming the divisiveness, the hard feelings from all of that." at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher w
the scene in michigan today looked familiar. it looked like the scenes in indiana and in ohio and in wisconsin where those states voted to take away the rights of unions. in fact, it was exactly that kind of scene michigan governor rick snyder, a republican, had said he wanted to avoid. in february, governor snyder looked at those other midwestern states with republican governors and workers protesting in the state capital and decided he did not want that thing in michigan, not in his...
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this is a big deal to michigan. you have to remember, michigan was built on unions. the united autoworkers union was born here. unions are really the backbone to this state. so it would be a huge blow if this law passes. not only here in michigan but across the country. because it could really undercut, has the possibility of undercutting the power and influence of unions. once again, not just here in michigan but across the country. this really goes beyond politics. andrew potter, talked with him today, he's in a union, he's a republican, and he's against this republican-backed measure. >> it's a smoke and mirror attempt to take away the representation that these members and these hard working class citizens are going to receive. >> reporter: but those in favor of this bill say, you know what, it does give workers the freedom to choose what they want to do. whether or not they want to join a union and pay those union dues. and they say it also grows jobs. >> it actually makes unions more accountable and makes them more responsive to their members because now the uni
this is a big deal to michigan. you have to remember, michigan was built on unions. the united autoworkers union was born here. unions are really the backbone to this state. so it would be a huge blow if this law passes. not only here in michigan but across the country. because it could really undercut, has the possibility of undercutting the power and influence of unions. once again, not just here in michigan but across the country. this really goes beyond politics. andrew potter, talked with...
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this is in detroit, michigan. he just stepped off of air force one and he's greeting folks on the tarmac. they're taking pictures. this is part of the campaign to reach out to the american people to make his case about the need to avoid going over the fiscal cliff and what his solution to that is. that would require that the top 2% of americans pay higher taxes. that is something he's been talking with republicans in congress about and believes is nonnegotiable. shaking hands there, and we're looking at the venue as well. that's where he's going to be speaking at the auto plant at the top of the hour. also saw the president last night at the christmas in washington charity concert in d.c. that event was hosted by conan o'brien and featured the legendary diana ross and psy, who was greeted by the president. the president did not attempt psy's signature dance, gangnam style. they were talking yesterday, but the president did suggest he thinks he can do it. he thinks he can do that dance. we're going to see if that a
this is in detroit, michigan. he just stepped off of air force one and he's greeting folks on the tarmac. they're taking pictures. this is part of the campaign to reach out to the american people to make his case about the need to avoid going over the fiscal cliff and what his solution to that is. that would require that the top 2% of americans pay higher taxes. that is something he's been talking with republicans in congress about and believes is nonnegotiable. shaking hands there, and we're...
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cnn's poppy harlow is in michigan with the detail. >> reporter: michigan is the birthplace of the united auto workers, but the future of unions in this state is in question at this hour, the fate over labor unions in michigan is vocal and visual. thousands of protesters stormed the state capitol. the measures were introduced and passed in a single day. rushed through democrats, argue, calling it a subversion of the ledge layive process. >> it terrifies me that they're trying to pass this through so quickly with no discussion from the other side, no understanding of what's important in it. >> the measures would make it illegal for unions and employers to mandate employees join a union or pay any money to the union. i spoke to michigan's republican governor rick schneider. >> i don't view it as anti-union at all. >> they tell me it's anti-worker, saying it gives workers less of a voice. what do you say to that? >> that's backward. this is about being pro worker. again, giving workers the choice, the freedom to choose, that's fundamental. >> so his legislation is anti-worker. it's going to
cnn's poppy harlow is in michigan with the detail. >> reporter: michigan is the birthplace of the united auto workers, but the future of unions in this state is in question at this hour, the fate over labor unions in michigan is vocal and visual. thousands of protesters stormed the state capitol. the measures were introduced and passed in a single day. rushed through democrats, argue, calling it a subversion of the ledge layive process. >> it terrifies me that they're trying to pass...
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we want that here in michigan. the difference between michigan and indiana is indiana is a red state. they did not vote for the president this year. this state voted for the president by nine points, so the question is, in two years, when we possibly have a new governor, possibly a new legislature, does this get overturned. will companies be willing to really come in and plant their foot here and create jobs here? that's a big question. >> they may have voted for a democratic president but they have both an assembly and senate that are majority republican. stand by for a moment. i want to bring in john avlon to bring us perspective on this. break it down, when we talk about the employment economies of states that are right to work states and states that are not right to work states. is one better than the other? >> this really gets to the heart of cutting through the spin, because there are so many partisan special interests that do the analysis. we called the bureau of labor statistics. it is clear that right to w
we want that here in michigan. the difference between michigan and indiana is indiana is a red state. they did not vote for the president this year. this state voted for the president by nine points, so the question is, in two years, when we possibly have a new governor, possibly a new legislature, does this get overturned. will companies be willing to really come in and plant their foot here and create jobs here? that's a big question. >> they may have voted for a democratic president...
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>>> incredible scenes out of lansing, michigan. earlier today the michigan legislature passed the right to work bill essentially ending mandatory union payments all in a state that gave birth to u affi aw. goes to members desk. live in lansing, joe. >> reporter: well, it got ugly here a little while ago. the demonstrators parked in front of the capital most of the day. this is the scene just outside the capital across the street and in front of the governor's office. massive state police troopers have tried to force the crowd north down the streets to try to get them from the front of the governor's office. we understand the governor is going to sign this legislation any minute now or any time this afternoon. as can you see there's a very, very large standoff, if you will, right now, both front and back of us of supporters of organized labor in the state of michigan and elsewhere, as well as michigan state police trooper trying to keep some sort of semblance of order here. again, the house in michigan passed legislation earlier tod
>>> incredible scenes out of lansing, michigan. earlier today the michigan legislature passed the right to work bill essentially ending mandatory union payments all in a state that gave birth to u affi aw. goes to members desk. live in lansing, joe. >> reporter: well, it got ugly here a little while ago. the demonstrators parked in front of the capital most of the day. this is the scene just outside the capital across the street and in front of the governor's office. massive...